Curse

Zexion · Sep 25, 2006, 10:10 AM // 10:10

So, I was thinking. Dervishes got the ability to transform into the physical manifestation of the gods they worship. Varesh Ossa, the evil ruler, is a dervish. Varesh worships Abaddon, the 6th outcast god. See where I am going?

1+1+1=3

What if we were to fight Varesh as part of the storyline, and she had the skill "Avatar of Abaddon", allowing her to transform into her god? This would of course be a monster skill, and thus not available for capture.

Thoughts? Comments?

_Zexion

maedrarle · Sep 25, 2006, 10:22 AM // 10:22

Wouldn't suprise me. Interesting idea. I'm guessing that the general they call "Old Fool" is going to kill her at some point.

Tuesg · Sep 25, 2006, 10:32 AM // 10:32

Spoliers Ahead

Didn't we fight here in this event, granted I lost so she may have got away in a cutscene?

Avarre · Sep 25, 2006, 10:35 AM // 10:35

You fought General Kahyet, also a Ritualist. Varesh is more powerful

I've mentioned this possibility before in other threads... it's the logical ending of the story. We shall see, I suppose.

Neriandal Freit · Sep 25, 2006, 10:36 AM // 10:36

I was just about to say, didn't this thread get started because you've suggest that Avarre?

gr3g · Sep 25, 2006, 10:41 AM // 10:41

Varesh's evilness is an obvious plot misdirection. You don't make a character of such immaculate pedigree (bloodline of Turai Ossa, the greatest Elonian hero EVAR!!!) and for no reason make them irredeemably evil.

Prediction: Varesh is either (a) already fallen and under the control of the Abaddon cult, or (b) secretly keeping a watch on the Abaddon cult so she can spring her counter at the most opportune time.

I think the way Nightfall will come about will be a twist we don't yet expect. I will be greatly disappointed if this is another Shiro rehash, with the bad guy identified from the start.

TheMadKingGeorge · Sep 25, 2006, 10:45 AM // 10:45

sounds like anet has leaked some information but it was kind of obvious

Avarre · Sep 25, 2006, 10:47 AM // 10:47

A twist would provide more interest but also possibly throw away a character with a vast potential for development into a prime villain. Either way works, so long as it's done well...

Also, Varesh is 'evil' because of General Kahyet, her teacher. How Kahyet managed to convert Varesh is another story...

Derek · Sep 26, 2006, 02:53 PM // 14:53

I DEMAND that if there is a Avatar of Abaddon, players can also get it

. I mean it's most likely going to look cool, I hope that if there would be one it would be like this http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0&postcount=99 (I mean it would look like that big statue.)

Cloudpiercer · Sep 26, 2006, 04:25 PM // 16:25

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Originally Posted by gr3g

Varesh's evilness is an obvious plot misdirection. You don't make a character of such immaculate pedigree (bloodline of Turai Ossa, the greatest Elonian hero EVAR!!!) and for no reason make them irredeemably evil.

Prediction: Varesh is either (a) already fallen and under the control of the Abaddon cult, or (b) secretly keeping a watch on the Abaddon cult so she can spring her counter at the most opportune time.

I think the way Nightfall will come about will be a twist we don't yet expect. I will be greatly disappointed if this is another Shiro rehash, with the bad guy identified from the start.

Plus they've never given a villian the box art cover.

Solar Light · Sep 26, 2006, 06:09 PM // 18:09

Personaly, i have my doubts about Kormir.... i remember her doing something funny to a statue related to Abaddon in the opening scene for char making or somesuch, and you hear about Kormir poking around old ruins related to the Scarab Plague and more things like that.

all we know is that one of the main villans is a "she" but we have two canidates or one that has not been seen.

so, Kormir has the same chance of being Evil that Varesh does, although at first i thought Kormir was Nfs Togo/Rurik

Arkantos · Sep 26, 2006, 06:14 PM // 18:14

For some reason, whenever I picture Abaddon I picture Diablo.

Avatar of Abaddon would be nice though.

Quid Pro Quo · Sep 26, 2006, 11:21 PM // 23:21

I really do hope we get Abaddon's form. Although would you still be able to buy it with factions since that would be a bit of a spoiler? Would be kind of cool if it was a PvE perk.

Shadow · Sep 26, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49

I suspected the same. Monster only if anything.

UndeadRoadkill · Sep 27, 2006, 12:21 AM // 00:21

It sounds like an interesting idea, but I agree that it should be uncappable, however cool it may be. Why would the guy grant us power if we're trying to put him down?

sindex · Sep 27, 2006, 01:16 AM // 01:16

An interesting idea, (good call indeed) to see that there is a twist somewhere. However if someone does turn into the avatar, I don’t see it being the final version of Abaddon (something like a practice version of the god). Then when the truth is revealed you find out that you screwed up big time, setting everything in motion for his return (as he has foreseen). It would even cooler if he sends his adepts after you, from the prophecies and factions campaigns; so you could see how things came full circle (possibly someone you thought was totally irrelevant to Abaddon’s cause); like the emperor (the one that got killed by Shiro) from factions and Saul D’Alessio (the one that started the white mantle) from prophecies. I know that’s a bit far fetched, but you could make some connections.

OlMurraniKasale · Sep 27, 2006, 01:58 AM // 01:58

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Originally Posted by sindex

. . . Then when the truth is revealed you find out that you screwed up big time, setting everything in motion for his return (as he has foreseen) . . .

Screwed up big time? You mean like we did in Prophecies by helping the Vizier, who turned out to be evil and through his conniving, we (yes WE) released the Titans?

Please A-Net stay away from that plot twist.

sindex · Sep 27, 2006, 02:29 AM // 02:29

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Originally Posted by OlMurraniKasale

Screwed up big time? You mean like we did in Prophecies by helping the Vizier, who turned out to be evil and through his conniving, we (yes WE) released the Titans?

Please A-Net stay away from that plot twist.

Yeah however if you really think about it, you saw that coming when the Vizier stabbed you in the back (the voice diction was a dead give away). I’m talking about something totally unexpected, like (for those of you know Star Wars KOTR) when Darth Raven's true identity was revealed (or whatever totally unexpected ending you have witness).

Quid Pro Quo · Sep 27, 2006, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by sindex

Yeah however if you really think about it, you saw that coming when the Vizier stabbed you in the back (the voice diction was a dead give away). I’m talking about something totally unexpected, like (for those of you know Star Wars KOTR) when Darth Raven's true identity was revealed (or whatever totally unexpected ending you have witness).

A few twists like the one that was in KoTOR would be great! The preview actually did feel like KoTOR to me when I played it already. Anyone else?

doinchi · Sep 27, 2006, 07:46 AM // 07:46

I think the avatar of abbadon will be an endgame elite skill that is only capable in the last mission. I too didnt like the fact that my character ended up releasing the titans and causing so much mayhem.

I thought the savannahs in Nightfall reminded me of Dantooine in KOTOR II.